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Why are Patton, Montgomery and MacArthur so overrated?

Author : Tim D

Submitted : 2018-02-26 00:07:18    Popularity:     

Tags: Montgomery  Patton  overrated  MacArthur  

They had faar more sodiers and weapons than the Germans/Japanese, it's no suprise they won, any average commander would have.

It's ridiculous to compare them to the likes of Alexander, Ceasar, Napoleon.

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Patton was totally Overrated that was why he was Not a D Day he arrived in France 15 August 1944 to late to stuff things up

Montgomery was Leader of the 21 army group supported by FDR and Churchill because no one could match his skills

as for Mcarthur an arrogant leader he abused Australians who had been in WW2 since 1939

he arrived in AU in 1942 after Running away from Philippians and abandoned 120,000 of his own Troops

he was so arrogant that Truman had to Fire him before he started WW3 with the Chinese

Patton caused More Problems in Italy that on 3 occasions Montgomery had to come to the rescue and clean up his mess
that was why Patton was only put on Monty's right Flank and Given just enough Fuel to reach where we would meet the Russians and Low and behold Patton Disobeyed his Orders and ran out of Fuel trying to rescue his son in law
on D Day Patton had a Rubber army and his 3 army 15 August were all Green and untested

the Supreme allied commander Europe should have been Earl Mountbatten or Marchall both would have ended WW2 earlier than 1945

now watch Americans get upset and thumbs me down

Oh, Patton and Monty were just pretty good, driven commanders. It's not so to say that any average commander could have done what they did. Many tried and failed. Commanding armies the size they commanded, in the desperate conditions they took over in, and making those huge, unwieldy armies work effectively is a monumental task.

However, you may have a point about the comparisons to Alexander or Napoleon (I think Caesar was also just mediocre).

Bradley was better than both of them, however. MacArthur, although he's an ego-maniac, was pretty darned sharp, and used innovative and bold techniques and strategies to defeat the Japanese Imperial Army over and over (in conjunction with Nimitz and so on). His later exploits at Inchon are also factored in.

"It's ridiculous to compare them to the likes of Alexander, Ceasar [sic], Napoleon."

It is no more ridiculous than all the other games of Top Trumps that armchair generals enjoy playing on Y!A.

Any average commander did not defeat the Germans or Japanese, amongst many others those three did (which is why you can name them), instead of trying to rate them or whining when they are rated, how about you try to understand why it takes more forces to take the offensive than it does to defend a position.

And then consider why a commander, who knows his position is secure and that his enemy cannot improve their own position, should not wait until every possible advantage is on his side before acting – surely that is just common sense (and the essence of good leadership – give your side every opportunity of winning).

You have a valid point about MacArthur, whose forces in the Philippines had a 9 hour warning of the Jap attack, and did absolutely nothing, but Patton did not outnumber German forces, and faced tanks far superior to his own. Montgomery is remembered for his successes, while his problems are ignored

History has shown that militaries that had far less troops who were poorly training and ill equiped defeat militaries that outnumbered them greatly who were well equiped and highly trained. All becuase of a brilant leader, general.

It would certainly be ridiculous to compare them to Alexander, Caesar or Napoleon but I don't think anyone does. Their circumstances, and the outcome of their campaigns were quite different. Alexander died and his conquests dissolved, Caesar was murdered by his own side, and Napoleon lost his last campaign and ended up in exile. Patton, Montgomery and MacArthur, on the other hand, won.

Not really, and no they did not.
In all cases they had to invade the land held by the opposing forces.
Far more difficult than just setting up bunkers.

To the victor goes the spoils

The ability of a leader is not assessed by totalling up the number of people or weapons they had control over.
It's about personality and leadership.



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