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If R. Nader was so bent on protecting us from ourselves, why didn't he try to ban motorcycles?(N

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Submitted : 2018-06-15 08:57:07    Popularity:     

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He just sounded hypocritical. I have a few friends who love restoring Corvairs. Update: Corvairs are Cool. Update 2: To Answer that "Question":

If you'd Lived in Nader's regime, he got Corvairs banned

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I had a friend in high school who had a Corvair and loved it. When he graduated from high school he opened a mail order catalog for Corvair parts. I think it's still running.

The first model of the Corvair WAS dangerous. Cars today have to be able to do a 'J-turn'. You can take any modern car up to 60 mph an just turn the steering wheel over as far as it will go in either direction, and the car might skid but it won't turn over. That's a J-turn. (Of course, if you do this on the road you're likely to hit something!) Nader documented in his book how the axles on either side of the differential in the back could droop to extreme angles if the car went up in the air. He also listed several of the many turnover accidents people had had with that car. Within a couple years Chevy had fixed the problem, and Nader himself gave them credit for that.

Motorcycles are not much safer or more dangerous than they were then. ABS has probably had an effect, and I know suspensions are much more sophisticated now. I'm sure helmets are better now. But the biggest factor in the safety of motorcycles is how you ride them, and that's not as true with cars.

Ban wasn't his plan with Corvair book. GM had lots of money and making a 'unsafe' vehicle meant they would/could be sued for injuries to people-and lawyer would get half or more of settlement with expert witness getting a share--and Nader would be 'expert/paid' witness. Harley doesn't have that much extra cash- but does have customers with contacts to somewhat violent people- greedy lawyer would get kneecapped, case of Belfast arthritis. Foreign makers would ignore law suits, go by trade treaties so wouldn't be profitable.

Because motorcycles are inherently dangerous and anyone who rides one should recognize and accept the danger. Cars are different - you assume a certain degree of safety within the confines of an automobile. Also, US drivers were not ready for a rear-engine car in the early 60's.

IDK. I find some evidence he got controls standardized, but it's inconclusive whether Nader was an influence, or just a "scapegoat" for unpopular regulations. Nixon got the the 280Z smogged to death, a lot of cars. But. Z's can be desmogged and reprogrammed
:https://www.quora.com/In-the-1970s-motorcycle-foot-controls-were-reversed-with-the-rear-brake-now-on-the-right-and-the-gear-shift-on-the-left-Who-came-up-with-that-idea-and-what-was-the-rationale-for-the-change-besides-having-both-brakes

Even so, some have all down or all up. The actual shift pattern is still up to the maker . Just where the controls are was mandated in '72.

EDIT: I think it unlikely Nader was bribed by the motorcycle lobby, as he wasn't by GM, which is far bigger. He possibly considered accident rates on motorcycles, which are much smaller than with cars/trucks, and total injuries and deaths (usually, one per accident) as far less per incident and per capita.

I owned a Corvair way back when. I never had any trouble with it

I don';t get your question. I guess the world is supposed to be run by your friends' hobbies?



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